Using the multi-cluster replicated control planes model, if I have the same exact service in cluster A and cluster B, is it possible to configure it to always go to the local instance (httpbin.foo.svc.cluster.local running in cluster A) if possible and if that fails or is not healthy then to use to the version that in second cluster (httpbin.foo.global running in cluster B) using outlier detection.
I have read about and tried to configure the locality load balancing, but I have yet to be successful in setting this up, and I have not found any documentation on how this can be achieved in a mesh federation configuration.
If someone can provide any pointers, that would be amazing!
Hello. What version of Istio are you using? I know there were some issues opened with the LLB not working in some instances. I believe 1.3.x has issues. I also had some issues with 1.2.6 trying to replicate some things I had working in earlier 1.2.x versions. It may also be that design changes require something that I’m not doing (and may not be adequately documented).
I may build and test with the master branch to see if things are fixed and may need to be cherry-picked back.
I tried with 1.2.6 and 1.3.1. Can you expand on what you had working on earlier 1.2.x versions?
If I create a destination rule with outlier detection and a service entry, such as the ones below, is there additional configuration needed to tell it to go to the .global service that is running on the other cluster when the service is unavailable locally? I have modified service entries and destination rules in many ways in other attempts, but I am not still not too sure the configuration that is needed to make it go the external cluster only when it is unavailable in the local cluster. I am trying to access them by running curl commands in a sleep pod in the following manor. Accessing them individually and explicitly works perfectly.
For 1.2, I had explicitly enabled locality load balancing (–set global.localityLbSetting.enabled=“true” added to example text). (In 1.3 it is enabled by default since it a lack of outlier detection effectively disables it).
So here’s what I did to show this works on 1.2.7. Apologies if I have some typos. I have a todo to write this up as a blog entry. I am using Istio 1.2.7 and I have two IKS clusters each in a different datacenter. If you do a k get nodes -o yaml | grep failure in each cluster you should see that region or zone is different, else this won’t work:
> k get nodes --context=istio-2 -o yaml | grep failure | grep zone
failure-domain.beta.kubernetes.io/zone: wdc06
failure-domain.beta.kubernetes.io/zone: wdc06
failure-domain.beta.kubernetes.io/zone: wdc06
> k get nodes --context=istio-1 -o yaml | grep failure | grep zone
failure-domain.beta.kubernetes.io/zone: wdc04
failure-domain.beta.kubernetes.io/zone: wdc04
failure-domain.beta.kubernetes.io/zone: wdc04
Now I ran through the shared control plane example at https://istio.io/docs/setup/install/multicluster/shared-gateways/ with one BIG exception. Within the two blocks to create the istio-*auth.yaml files you need to add a line to enable LLB (as noted in earlier remark). An example for the first one (second to the last line):
Now run through the example and if you hit sleep in cluster1, you should see if go to helloworld in cluster1 and cluster2, just as the example is written.
Now for the LLB part. To make traffic stay in cluster, you need an outlier so I used this:
Apply this in cluster 1: kubectl apply -f helloworld-destination-rule-outlier.yaml -n sample --context=$CTX_CLUSTER1
Now, do the same execs against sleep in cluster1 and you should see that only helloworld in cluster1 is called. Traffic will stay in the region. If you scale down the helloworld in cluster 1 to zero, traffic will failover to cluster2. When cluster1’s helloworld is scaled back up, traffic will revert to cluster 1.
Thank you for sharing this. I was really hoping to see if it is possible using the replicated control plane model https://istio.io/docs/setup/install/multicluster/gateways/ rather than the shared control plane model you shared https://istio.io/docs/setup/install/multicluster/shared-gateways/. With 1-2 clusters I believe it’s okay to use a shared control plane, but isn’t there concern when you start connecting many cluster having the single point of failure in the cluster with the control plane? I’m really curious how other are deciding to configure and architect multi-cluster service meshes with istio.
I can work on documenting an example using the gateway example as well (but it will be a little while). I think the main issue I ran into when experimenting earlier was using the global vs local service names. Maybe the example with moving reviews-v3 to cluster #2 could be adopted.
That would be amazing and I, as well as others, would really appreciate if you do! I have yet to see a successful example due to the global vs local service names, and it seems like it would be a fairly common use case
I was not able to successfully set this up. I think one of the issues I had in my setup was I could not reasonably create a “single mesh”. The docs state:
I could not reasonably replicate all services / namespaces everywhere; however, I may be understanding that incorrectly.
Also, as a heads up, I ran into this related issue as well.:
If you end up figure out more, I’m still interested, but right now I am not actively trying to make Istio work.
Ok thank you for the heads up! I am currently trying to understand how to configure the service entry for it to include both hosts (.local and .global instances). I really cannot find an example anywhere. I will let you know if I make any progress.
That was a really helpful wiki I looked at to load balance between the different versions between local and global service with the destination rules, but that opened the door to the issue I linked above which I could not figure out. The fail-over as well as being able to access multiple of the same version in different cluster tripped me up.
Were you successful tapas! I am exactly in the same situation. Need to load-balance and evict unhealthy hosts from the pool using replicated control planes.
when you deploy this in cluster1, [ assuming all the pods in cluster1 also have the k8s locality labels [failuredomain.k8s.io:…] set to cluster1, traffic from pods in cluster1 will go to foo.cluster1.gateway.host - which goes to the ingress and then comes back inside. If this is unavailable, then it goes to foo.cluster2.gateway.host.
We understand that entering the local cluster via ingress gateway is sub optimal. We are trying to optimize this and enable a new form of service entry that might let you cleanly achieve this goal.
The above configuration can be a workaround for accessing same service across clusters. But it is tricky for traffic flowing through ingress gateway when access local cluster service instance.
It is better to support expand SE endpoints, which means if the endpoint address is domain, and mesh internal service, we need to populate all its endpoints. But currently, i think @rshriram provided a good workaround.
I think as it currently stands, replicated control planes don’t really support failover. @rshriram suggestion is interesting, with caveats of traffic redirected to ingress gateway in local cluster and it will require clients to use the same host name (.global instead of .<local namespace>.svc.cluster.local) to reach both local and remote cluster which is less than ideal. At that point you’re manually creating a shared control plane with consistent naming IMO.
Depending on how your clusters are setup (or actually how your nodes are labeled) I got this working with this setup: https://github.com/istio/istio/issues/19257 actually there is never a need to use *.global and provide an extra IP address.
If you want I can write some documentation how to setup transparent failover (and it’s limitation -> it will only work for regional different clusters not cluster failover in the same region (or you misuse the region label).
@johscheuer Could you please explain what changes are required to set up replicated cluster to use .svc.cluster.local instead of .global. I tried changing destination rule and service entry for my foo.svc.cluster.local(note foo service is present in both clusters and want to achieve exactly what you wanted in https://github.com/istio/istio/issues/19257). Unlike your problem, “istioctl pc ep podname” only shows one endpoint, it doesnot show serviceentry ep “:15443”. Or you could update the documentation. Thank you!